School Board Excludes Member from Committee

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By Meghann M. Cuniff, Special to the Independent

A Laguna Beach school board member has been excluded from a new subcommittee created to hear personnel and litigation matters after the school district’s lawyer said she’d been leaking confidential information.

Calling the move “shameful,” Dee Perry denied breaching confidentiality and accused her colleagues of disfranchising her constituents by ostracizing her from “some of the most impactful areas of our job.”

“This is harming the citizens of Laguna Beach,” said Perry, who taught in Laguna Beach schools for 35 years.

The board on June 11 voted 4-1 (Perry opposed) to create the subcommittee at the recommendation of school district attorney Mark Bresee, who said staff alerted him to a confidentiality breach involving a board member “where there was concern about confidentiality issues previously.”

According to the subcommittee proposal, school district officials were searching for emails that could be responsive to a public records request when they discovered Perry had forwarded a message they believe contained information that’s confidential under attorney-client privilege laws, as well as confidential information from a closed meeting.

Further searches “revealed numerous other instances of member Perry forwarding emails from her district email account to a personal email account, which raises concerns about other potential confidentiality breaches,” according to the proposal.

Breese told the board he has an ethical obligation to address the “unusual” but not unheard of issue.

Perry vehemently denied sharing confidential information and said Board President Jan Vickers knows that the email Perry forwarded, which was dated April 17, contained no confidential information. Vickers brought the agenda item with Carol Normandin.

“What you are doing is wrong on so many levels,” Perry said. “I have never disclosed any confidential information.”

Perry said the accusation is not only false, it’s revengeful.

“I really thought we were all trying to work out our differences,” she said.

The April 17 message was from Bresee to Perry and “threatened litigation” against her over her comments to journalists about parents fearing retaliation from administrators. Perry said she saw the email “as a threat to the district and me personally, and my family.”

“I don’t agree that the same April 17 email was subject to attorney-client privilege,” Perry said.

The new subcommittee is not required to consider all personnel and potential litigation issues. Rather, it will consider them only on a case-by-case basis and if the board desires. The subcommittee is authorized for one year.

“It could be that this committee is created, and nothing is ever sent to the committee,” Bresee said.

It’s the latest dustup in Perry’s strained relationship with her colleagues, who in December bypassed her for school board president despite board rules that indicated it was her turn.

Terri Meisberger, a Laguna Beach resident and parent, told board members the presidential scandal and the new subcommittee are part of “a continual pattern of trying to silence board member Perry.”

“I urge you to not silence one of your members of your team, and I urge you to look up the definition of a team and try to play by the rules of a team, because this isn’t teamwork,” Meisberger said.

Just before the vote, Normandin pressed Perry on her claim the email wasn’t confidential.

“You said you disagreed this was a confidential matter? What did you disagree with, that it’s confidential privileged personnel, student or litigation related?” Normandin asked via conference call.

Perry said the letter “was a threatening letter to me and my family.”

Without releasing the letter, she said she sought advice from “someone very respected in Sacramento” who told her “it was absolutely not confidential.” Another legal expert “totally agreed,” Perry said.

“Just because someone writes ‘confidential’ on the top, that does not mean that’s confidential,” Perry said.

“I didn’t cover anything up. It’s not a secret. I forwarded it to someone who could help me,” she said.

Normandin remained dubious, and emphasized the potential litigation was confidential to the board as a client of Bresee, “not you individually.”

Audience members shouted at the board to stop. Vickers defended the discussion. Resident Sheri Morgan, speaking from the audience, called it “an interrogation.”

Normandin continued: “When our attorney sends something to us and says it’s confidential, the board as whole has to determine if we don’t think that’s confidential.”

Perry said she felt she personally needed legal advice. “I was afraid,” she said.

Bresee said he believes the email, which contained legal opinions, is lawfully confidential, and said he’s “not the only one who holds that opinion.”

Vickers emphasized the importance of the issue.

“It’s a huge deal, this being a public official,” Vickers said, calling the email “informative” and not threatening.

Board members John Kelly and Peggy Wolff joined Vickers and Normandin in approving the subcommittee

“Confidentiality is a really important part of this job. We deal with a lot of private issues, with students, personnel. When we get emails that are all caps ‘attorney-client privilege,’ I truly respect that, and I would hope that every board member would,” Wolff said.

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  1. One correction. The one was not unanimous. It was 4-to-1. Perry voted against it. Now the Board has the option to exclude Perry and get unanimous votes like it had before she was elected. Gee, that is a whole new approach to democracy, where you nullify elections by not letting those who will not vote with the majority have any vote at all. Using secrecy rules that don’t apply to silence elected members is also very cool. The very points that Vickers, Wolff and Normandin makes about the Lawyer working for the whole Board and representing the School District as his client is mindlessly disconnected by each of them from the fact that he was advising Perry on her individual, personal and private legal rights and liabilities. She is not his closet and he had no business giving her legal advice and then claiming that is not what he was doing, all in the same letter. He waived attorney client privilege and confidentiality by addressing her public comments and the potential legal implications thereof. You can’t have it both ways, invoking attorney client privilege and then send an e-mail outside a closed meeting about public matters that are not sourced in closed meetings, and then claim that it is subject to secrecy laws. Under CA Gov. Code 54963(b) and (e)(3) the information must be sourced only in a closed meeting, and matters that are public cannot be made confidential by discussing those public matters in a closed meeting. It this INDY article is accurate and the letter addressed statements Perry was making in public it waives confidentiality, especially if it pertains to the legal rights of Perry as a private citizen outside there official duties as seems to be the case form what Vickers sand Bresee said at that Line 11 meeting. That is why Vickers and Bressee chose to exclude Perry y a political action instead of seeking a judicial remedy, they did not want to loose yet another legal case.

  2. Sorry for typos, rushing, I meant June 11 meeting and vote was not unanimous. I also think it is really cool that Peggy Wolff just uncritically accepts whatever the guy who is the lawyer tell her. Why have an elected Board if they don’t question what the career bureaucrats and contractors tell them? Besides this is not about the lawyer, the lawyer does do any8ting he is not told to do by the Superintendent and Board President.

  3. this is a Great Lesson for the CHILDERN & Parents. world wide not just Little Laguna Beach ! “freedom” means you need Not be afraid to Speak up and have the Chance to give your Point of View. bullies come in many ways to try to quite you and make you fearful.

  4. Mr.howard hills is very RIGHT, Remember “Erin Brockovich”. read the book or/and see the Movie AGAIN.


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